Guts trying to hold back the armor and not let it consume him might very well mean that he watches out for Casca & co.Arguing that Guts restrained the armor introduces more problems, since if he was in such control, he wouldn't have ignored Casca, and so on. If fans far removed from Miura can understand such details, why can't the team who worked with him do?
If Guts is meant to be understood as protecting Casca and the others, they sure did a poor job of presenting that. The beast eye, the mindless swinging, the "GRIFFITH" shout, and so doesn't paint a picture of anything but a mindless fury to me. So no, I don't think your defense holds.Guts trying to hold back the armor and not let it consume him might very well mean that he watches out for Casca & co.
Otherwise he might just have put on his helmet and rage away and the next time he became sane again everyone is dead because he didn't notice what happened to the others.
You also can't forget that this is the first time he sees him like that since quite some time. Guts finally thought he achieved something. Brought his friends to a somewhat safe place and healed Cascas mind.
On top of that, the kid that made Casca so happy turns out to be Griffith, so Guts got fucked over by him again.
We just saw the first couple of seconds/minutes of their first encounter since a long time. Let's see how Guts behaves in the upcoming episodes
Sure, but it is also entirely possible that there may be some new plot-point/device introduced in the future episodes that may explain how Zodd navigated the World Tree's branches (if Sonia does end up not being present and/or right behind Zodd) to arrive on Skellig.Use your brain. We were told a handful of episodes ago that only Griffith and Sonia could navigate the World Tree's branches. That means she'd have to be there to guide Zodd. Simple deduction.
Sure, but it is also entirely possible that there may be some new plot-point/device introduced in the future episodes that may explain how Zod navigated the World Tree's branches (if Sonia does end up not being present and/or right behind Zod) to arrive on Skellig.
If it does turn out to be a new plot element introduced to explain Zod's presence, I guess readers will have to judge for themselves whether they think it was something that Miura was originally planning for, or if it is Studio Gaga and/or Mori simply guessing on the "how" of something that they only knew the "what" of (e.g. Mori and Gaga may have definitively knew Miura planned on having Zod arrive in Elfhelm, but they didn't/don't have any definite knowledge of how Miura was planning to depict it).
I feel that in 366 his facial expressions switch quite a bit between desperation and anger. Not just pure fury.If Guts is meant to be understood as protecting Casca and the others, they sure did a poor job of presenting that. The beast eye, the mindless swinging, the "GRIFFITH" shout, and so doesn't paint a picture of anything but a mindless fury to me. So no, I don't think your defense holds.
I mean that’s essentially one of major inherent cruxes of the issue of Mori and Studio Gaga doing a manga continuation going forwards. Every single reader will have their own set of parameters of what they think is plausible for what Miura may have planned (plot-wise) and what they think is entirely original from Studio Gaga and/or Mori. And even if people could ask them exactly what, or even if Mori and Studio Gaga might eventually potentially volunteer to specify what exact story information they remembered from Miura and what they didn’t, it ultimately comes down to how much faith/trust/benefit of the doubt an individual is willing to give them in regards to the veracity of the continuation’s story.That's a lot of words to essentially repeat what I said. Except I don't find it plausible at all that Miura would have planned a secret way for Zodd (that's spelled with two Ds) to not need Sonia or Griffith to lead the way while he established it less than 10 episodes ago.
I mean that’s essentially one of major inherent cruxes of the issue of Mori and Studio Gaga doing a manga continuation going forwards. Every single reader will have their own set of parameters of what they think is plausible for what Miura may have planned (plot-wise) and what they think is entirely original from Studio Gaga and/or Mori.
And even if people could ask them exactly what, or even if Mori and Studio Gaga might eventually potentially volunteer to specify what exact story information they remembered from Miura and what they didn’t, it ultimately comes down to how much faith/trust/benefit of the doubt an individual is willing to give them in regards to the veracity of the continuation’s story.
It's fascinating that not only are these episodes very polarizing.
There also seems to be an inversion of opinions about Berserk throughout the community since the team unveiled their work.
For example, I've seen some readers who have been critical of Miura and Berserk in the past come through the woodwork to support this. And some fans who have stood by eagerly with each release are critical of how the new team handled these episodes.
I'm trying to understand this phenomenon myself.
having seen it now, I can't not second-guess how it's portrayed when Guts swings the Dragon Slayer into the ground over and over for a full page, without any internal monologue, without any actual threat of the beast overtaking him despite the futility of his struggle, and his greatest enemy is right here.
I can't not wonder if the depiction of the Dragon Slayer going right through Griffith's head as if he were water was really how Miura would have portrayed Griffith being untouchable.
And those are just the two substantial issues I had with these episodes. I don't think there's any value in picking on every page, but there are quite a lot of things that got in the way of me enjoying this. For example, when the leaks were happening, I saw two pages (Zodd appearing and Guts reacting) that, based on the quality of the art, I assumed was fake fanart someone had inserted for laughs (you know... like we used to make). Then I saw them in the actual magazine. So yeah. There's that!
Even though Miura was a great artist, I was always more interested in his storytelling. And I don't just mean his words, but also the paneling, the arrangement of action on a page. He was really fucking good at it.
But if it’s simply a new development to reveal something new about the plot/lore/a character/etc. that doesn’t necessarily make it a contradiction/mistake? A story having characters state something as fact and then later having something in the story subvert/adding a wrinkle to what the characters said isn’t uncommon in fiction, especially fantasy and sci-fi.I get it, but I would say that directly contradicting a recently established story element would not leave much doubt. It's kind of useless to talk about it further because I really don't expect them to make that mistake.
Oh I didn’t mean doubt in regards to trusting their intention, I more meant, like you said, doubt/trust about whether they are interpreting and/or executing the information they have “correctly” (and what constitutes a “correct” interpretation/execution is a relatively subjective (at least in terms of plotting) discussion as well).I don't think there's any reason to doubt Mori's intentions. At most he could misremember something, but to me the main factor at play remains how the staff will interpret the information they have and then execute it on the page.
Use your brain. We were told a handful of episodes ago that only Griffith and Sonia could navigate the World Tree's branches. That means she'd have to be there to guide Zodd. Simple deduction.
I think that's definitely a factor, and in many cases it could also be as simple as if you were more open to criticism of the manga previously, or believed Miura could do wrong to put it another way, then you're ironically going to be more open to and forgiving of mistakes from a brand new team attempting to carry on his work under difficult circumstances.
I think there's also an inversion of... if your way of consuming Berserk involved bitching about it and Miura, you basically came to the wrong place! But now it's open season, and the guys like me that would previously rationalize everything even before the ensuing episodes did can now theoretically tear it apart in real time because it's not attacking Miura anymore, and even defending the integrity of his work arguably.
But if it’s simply a new development to reveal something new about the plot/lore/a character/etc. that doesn’t necessarily make it a contradiction/mistake? A story having characters state something as fact and then later having something in the story subvert/adding a wrinkle to what the characters said isn’t uncommon in fiction, especially fantasy and sci-fi.
Coldn't he simply have followed the Moonchild like that time on the beach?
Well that's for sure. But maybe use that uncertainty to your advantage.The problem with following this continuation is that we'll never be able to know what Miura would have done or how he would have done it. Every decision on every page will be scrutinized, even if it's unconscious.
But Miura (almost certainly) wouldn't have drawn that scene, that's the whole point.My biggest issue with this is simply that a fully conscious Guts would more quickly recognize the futility of this and pivot his approach, not just keep hitting the ground. At least in my mind, but do *I* know better than Mori and Studio Gaga? I wouldn't think I know more than Miura if he portrayed that; then it would just show how out of sorts Guts is!
Yes, but time flow different, on the Island.However in this case he's coming in a day later through the branches of the tree. It's the same process as shown in episode 357.
Yes, but time flow different, on the Island.
If they actually do that, that will make me suspicious of their intentions. Mori seems like a genuine guy, but others surrounding this project could be posers that are there for money and that’s it. Only time will tell.After reading the episodes I just felt sad.... Like the art Is ok but It felt empty to me.
Yep...for me " Berserk: Lost Memories" would be a more appropriate title. I'm now fearing for the Berserk Deluxe edition, as probabily volume 14 will collect Tankōbon 40, 41 and "42"
It's the day after the fool moon on the island, is that the case on the outside?In fact, the episode title specifically refers to the fact it's the next day.