Please not the plural "soldiers" in my statement. Not soldier. I don't think a leader should put himself above his ENTIRE army.
Also, i'm not the one who stated that EVERY one of the hawks knew that griffith prized his dream over all of them. You should give a basis for that statement.
As for my reason for contradicting: The hawks revered griffith as a sort of a hero. They all loved him and respected him, or at least that's the impression i got. I don't remember anyone speaking ill of grif when he wasn't around. If i missed that somewhere, it didn't happen often. I don't think the hawks would have that sort of respect for him if they didn't think he cared for them. I will admit that that is a weak basis, but i haven't seen you provide any yet.
That aside, i think the core of this debate actually revolves around WHY griffith sacrificed them. If it was solely for the purpose that he could live, dream aside, it was a pretty low and cowardly thing to do. That's probably not what happened though. If it was the purpose of his life and his dream, it depends what his dream was. If his dream was simply to accumulate power for himself, it was still extremely selfish and low. If he did it because he wanted to accumulate power and be a good ruler etc. Then what we have here is a question of "Do the ends justify the means?" as i have already said. This is a very common and debatable answer. Let's have an example:
The US or some other country could probably all but eliminate the AIDS epidemic in Africa by bombing certain areas, quarantining and killling off certain areas, etc. This would greatly improve life in Africa in the long run. I personally am against this idea. Some others would probably support it. Classic example of ends justifying means.
If you support ends justifying means, that's your opinion and i cannot argue with you any further.
Also, i'm not the one who stated that EVERY one of the hawks knew that griffith prized his dream over all of them. You should give a basis for that statement.
As for my reason for contradicting: The hawks revered griffith as a sort of a hero. They all loved him and respected him, or at least that's the impression i got. I don't remember anyone speaking ill of grif when he wasn't around. If i missed that somewhere, it didn't happen often. I don't think the hawks would have that sort of respect for him if they didn't think he cared for them. I will admit that that is a weak basis, but i haven't seen you provide any yet.
That aside, i think the core of this debate actually revolves around WHY griffith sacrificed them. If it was solely for the purpose that he could live, dream aside, it was a pretty low and cowardly thing to do. That's probably not what happened though. If it was the purpose of his life and his dream, it depends what his dream was. If his dream was simply to accumulate power for himself, it was still extremely selfish and low. If he did it because he wanted to accumulate power and be a good ruler etc. Then what we have here is a question of "Do the ends justify the means?" as i have already said. This is a very common and debatable answer. Let's have an example:
The US or some other country could probably all but eliminate the AIDS epidemic in Africa by bombing certain areas, quarantining and killling off certain areas, etc. This would greatly improve life in Africa in the long run. I personally am against this idea. Some others would probably support it. Classic example of ends justifying means.
If you support ends justifying means, that's your opinion and i cannot argue with you any further.