BerserkFL said:Maybe I can say good things about this adaptation because I went into it with realistic expectations.
Expectations should not have anything to do with it. It's just pretty bad honestly. That's it. Take it from the guy who'd warned about its possible problems before it was even officially announced.
BerserkFL said:So that's something right?
Is it "something" that your younger cousins, who couldn't be bothered to read a graphic novel of any kind, like those movies? I'd say no.
BerserkFL said:Haters gonna hate but that 100 man battle was very entertaining to watch. Plus the siege of Doldrey was very good too. Lack of Zodd......lack of Guts sword breaking.....lack of fairy medicine......lack of Bonfire of Dreams.....do you see what I'm doing here? Every cut falls back onto another cut. At which point do you accept 4C simply wasn't going to a very faithful adaptation? They had to pick and choose what they wanted to be good. Zodd scene, 100 man battle, Doldrey, Griffith getting tortured.
You miss the point. Those movies are bad. Good for you if you found a small part of this movie "enjoyable" (your conspicuous silence on the remaining 1h15 of it is telling enough), but that doesn't change the problems it has, problems you have acknowledged yourself. I don't doubt that a lot of people liked Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen, but it's still a shitty movie. No one denies you the right to enjoy whatever you want to. But I reserve myself the right to question what people think is needed or not to do Berserk justice.
BerserkFL said:Why did you expect it to be good? What indication did you have that it would be?
What a dumb statement. Why expect it to be good? Again, expectations have nothing to do with it. As fans, it's perfectly normal to want it to be good, and as paying customers, it's expected of us to demand it to be good. Satisfying oneself with a bad product is what is unnatural here. You don't go to a restaurant expecting to eat rotten food, do you? And if you did happen to be served rotten food, you wouldn't eat it without complaints, or try to rationalize the experience. "Oh well, the water wasn't that foul at least". That's what you're doing here.
BerserkFL said:I watched it like a tech demo showcasing some memorable scenes from the Berserk manga and that's all.
It didn't really "showcase" anything though. What scenes were featured looked rather bad to me.
BerserkFL said:There really was no reason to ever get excited or to expect something of great quality. I sure as hell never hoped for much. I have no desire to expel energy on hatin on these films. If I went down that road I'd sound a lot like you and my blood pressure would go up. My Berserk "fix" is filled already, I sure as hell never expected Studio 4C to come even close. Not close at all. Now the movies here and COMPARED to the manga it is pure garbage but why exert energy pointing out what everyone already knows?
No one's losing sleep over those movies here, let me assure you. And being upfront about their low quality doesn't take any more passion than pretending they're good. As to why we're exerting energy posting about it... Well, uh, we're fans, so that's pretty much what we do. Not to mention that apparently not everyone knows it. Just look at the poll.
BerserkFL said:Aside from the story one thing I will defend is the way it looks. Personally I thought the tech was pretty cool and looks great in HD. Not really seeing the comparison to cutscenes from a video game.
I think the problem's on your side.
BerserkFL said:I might appear new here but I've been visiting this forum for god, has it been 5 years or longer now? Hell could be 10 years I've lost track. Fans demanding more Berserk is nothing new and for a long long long time we did beg for more. I mean how could we not considering where the anime series ended right?
Not sure I follow you. The official SK.net stance was never MORE ANIME NO MATTER THE QUALITY, quite the opposite in fact. If you've been lurking for years you must be aware of this. The TV series ended on a cliffhanger, but it didn't matter to those who were reading the manga. The people who clamored for a second season in 2002 aren't active anymore. And if they were I'm not sure they'd be satisfied with these movies anyway.
BerserkFL said:Sorry to be a Debbie downer or negative but if after this VERY long wait they couldn't show the project more respect than 4C did I have zero faith it will ever happen.
We'll see. It doesn't really pertain to the issue at hand though.
Wyrm said:To be honest, I prefer that something bad is done with <insert my favourite franchise> than nothing at all. My reasoning is that if it's at least moderately successful it might lead to other productions with more quality. Of course a work can be so bad that it kills an entire franchise altogether but I don't remember any examples...
All in all it's similar to "Say good or bad things about me, i don't care. But talk about me, goddammit!"
Not justifiying the movie or saying that you shouldn't criticize it, far from it. Just saying that there's nothing wrong in seeing the silver lining and hope that 1 bad adaptation may lead to a better one.
Now this is an argument I can understand. However I'm not sure these movies will do much good in that regard. If anything at least I hope they end up being profitable, even if barely.
Hanma_Baki said:Yo, Aaz, that is the mother of all reviews Your attention to detail is as mesmerising as ever. Made for an epic lunch break read, thanks for sharing. I thought I was picky and critical but much of the more in-depth issues you mention I never even noticed, then again I wasnt really looking or comparing to the manga on that level. And its nice that you´re drawing parallels to the manga on a regular basis like that, and describing each version, sorry I know Im dick riding here but it gives a sense of professionalism/sophistication having you around
Glad you enjoyed it! I figured that if I was going to post a review I might as well make it a serious one.
Jaze1618 said:Now here is something I can get on board with. Has a faithful adaptation, the trilogy has failed. And even has a movie adaptations the trilogy is pretty bad. But I suppose it does go above and beyond as a tech demo, but of course that's not what it was marketed as.
But do you think it looks good, from a purely technical perspective? I'd say it's very, very uneven. Some scenes are alright when reduced to short clips, but they're few and far between.