His agent would say: "Do you want to live in Arnie's shadow, picking up his scraps, or leave a mark that's all your own...? Now that you're listening to reason, thumb through that Jumanji 2 script before Friday."Griffith said:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=50_Ala5BKBo
Also, The Rock does every other action movie that comes out and they couldn't get him or another more Predator-sized dude in this one? Oh well.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aC6eMf87fscWalter said:His agent would say: "Do you want to live in Arnie's shadow, picking up his scraps, or leave a mark that's all your own...? Now that you're listening to reason, thumb through that Jumanji 2 script before Friday."
I don't know what Hollywood's problem is, but Predator 2 looks like a fucking masterpiece compared to this garbage. I think whoever's in charge fundamentally misunderstands the original movie's appeal.Griffith said:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=50_Ala5BKBo
I give them an E for exuberance and bringing back Shane "Jeez, you gotta big pussy!" Black to direct, but The Predator looks like it's going to make Predators look like the original Predator.
Yeah...Griffith said:Also, The Rock does every other action movie that comes out and they couldn't get him or another more Predator-sized dude in this one? Oh well.
The trailers are bad, but Shane Black hasn't made a movie that I disliked, so I'll watch it.Griffith said:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=50_Ala5BKBo
I give them an E for exuberance and bringing back Shane "Jeez, you gotta big pussy!" Black to direct, but The Predator looks like it's going to make Predators look like the original Predator. Also, The Rock does every other action movie that comes out and they couldn't get him or another more Predator-sized dude in this one? Oh well.
https://www.thedailybeast.com/mel-gibsons-new-police-brutality-movie-is-a-vile-racist-right-wing-fantasyDragged Across Concrete’s premise is as follows: a pair of detectives, Brett Ridgeman (Mel Gibson) and Anthony Lurasetti (Vince Vaughn) are caught on tape applying excessive force to a Hispanic prisoner in handcuffs, in the form of Ridgeman grinding his boot into the man’s neck until it emits a cracking sound. (During the bust, Ridgeman and Lurasetti also mock a scared, naked Latina suspect, claiming they can’t understand what she’s saying due to her accent. Both scenes are played for laughs.) With the tape destined to go viral, Ridgeman and Lurasetti are suspended for six weeks without pay, though the chief of police (Don Johnson) is sympathetic to their plight, delivering a rambling sermon about how being branded a “racist” today is akin to getting labeled a “communist” in the 1950s—or, to quote the president, this is a WITCH HUNT! and these two violent cops are the real victims.
And that was a BAD movie! I knew that even as a kid, but it's just sensibilities have changed so much even over-the-top bad movies of that time carried themselves with a certain level of gravitas (and an R rating =), whereas today's are more like cartoons. Fast paced, glib and ridiculous, which can make for a more brisk or fun bad experience, but they'll never be good or even mistaken for such. <- Bitter Old MenAazealh said:I don't know what Hollywood's problem is, but Predator 2 looks like a fucking masterpiece compared to this garbage. I think whoever's in charge fundamentally misunderstands the original movie's appeal.
NightCrawler said:The trailers are bad, but Shane Black hasn't made a movie that I disliked, so I'll watch it.
I do not share the optimism that this will somehow work out considering I wasn't a fan of Black's last bit of genre fare, Iron Man 3, either. Plus, rather than trying to right the Predator ship it looks more like they're leaning into making a more self-aware bad Predator movie, because that's just what Predator movies are at this point. I don't know if you can blame them considering the idea has been so tarnished it's hard, and possibly foolish, to try and take it remotely serious anymore. If one wanted to make another earnest Predator movie they'd probably need to start over with a similar concept that isn't carrying so much franchise baggage.m said:Shane Black is the reason I’ll be seeing this movie as well. I wasn’t a big fan of Iron Man 3, but The Nice Guys made up for it in spades.
Wow, I kept waiting for the twist to make this some acceptable, if misguided, form of social satire but it never came! Still hard to believe they're actually going to make a vehicle genuinely lamenting that law enforcement may rarely face consequences for abusing minority communities, particularly Latinos. Just in time for movie night at the El Paso kiddie concentration camp!Vampire_Hunter_Bob said:Here's a movie nobody asked for.
Dragged Across Concrete.https://www.thedailybeast.com/mel-gibsons-new-police-brutality-movie-is-a-vile-racist-right-wing-fantasy
Yeah, probably not with the Predator proper (unless they totally redesigned it and/or went back to basics =), but technically anybody can make this movie; just an alien ambush horror flick where we don't already know everything about the creature, especially what it looks like. There's surprisingly few Predator derivatives out there (basically Star Hunter) considering how simple and effective a twist it is on the alien monster concept. Maybe it's too specific to riff on without it being a direct copy, and the more feral or primitive you make it the more it just becomes Alien, so yeah, unless this turns out to be some brilliantly irreverent twist on the idea Predator seems doomed to be a one hit wonder that otherwise sort of sucks:Walter said:This is exactly what needs to happen. This will not happen.
https://www.reddit.com/r/movies/comments/8dak0d/conspiracy_theory_olivia_munn_is_brought_in_to/ said:X-men First-class: Awesome with a ~90% RT score. X-men Days of Future Past: Awesome with a ~90% RT score. Then Olivia Munn joins for Apocalypse. Awful movie with a 45% RT score.
Lego Movie. Awesome. Lego Batman. Awesome. Then Munn joins for the Ninjago movie. Uh huh.
Still don't believe me? Was Olivia Munn in Zoolander? No. Was Olivia Munn in Zoolander 2? Yes.
Her IMDB page is basically one long list of movies that ruined franchises. She is in the new predator movie and Ocean's 8, so RIP to those franchises I guess.
Aaron Rodgers: super bowl mvp 2011, Olivia Munn enters his life: 0 super bowl games, broken clavicle, concussions, those terrible commercials...
IIRC, she also dated Brad Richards when he was on the NY Rangers. During that time, he was a much worse player.
Yikes. Well, at least the ruination is a righteous act this time... they shouldn't have fucked around with another Predator.He got his coubtract bought out. Presumably broke up. Signed a one year contract with the Blackhawks and got to center Patrick Kane and win a Stanley Cup.
Shit she really is the problem.
IDK, what compels anybody to get into acting or entertainment or for people to cast them (some combination of talent, fit, and photogenics of course)? We kind of pigeonhole people based on what we know them for but she might have been settling hosting that show until she could get some acting work, or she just got unexpected opportunities, based on it. Anyway, as discussed she seems to be an unwitting harbinger of movie malpractice, but looked alright in this for what it is, so she must be pretty pissed to torch it and the cast, which seems a bit unfair unless they're really mistreating her privately (of course, I wouldn't want to talk to someone publicly dragging me and my movie for something I might have had nothing to do with either, and based on her luck I wouldn't want to associate with her anyway =).Zeke said:Whatever compelled Munn to get into acting in the first place; or perhaps a better question would be, what compelled producers to think she could act? I recall she was on that old gaming program "Attack of the Show", but, what else?
But... you wrote the movie, Shane, so if you knew that why not offer him a bigger part, like as an expert at the Predator lab or something? He'd have a lot in common with the Holbrook character and could play sage to the new group hunting the Predator, as has become common in these projects (it's called a formula, like bringing in the bigger, badder Predator =). Did you really need more Sterling K. Brown punchlines or *gulp* Olivia Munn? Maybe he originally offered Arnold the part of the sex offender; it all could have gone so differently!https://www.cbr.com/the-predator-reason-arnold-schwarzenegger-turned-down-cameo/ said:“Understandably – and believe me, I completely get it – he said, ‘Look, that’s kind of a small part, and I don’t really think I want to do that. I’m off to do Terminator with Jim Cameron, basically. Or for Jim Cameron’,” Black told Digital Spy. “So I totally got it, you know? If I was Schwarzenegger, I’d want to be one of the stars of a film, or nothing.”
Hahaha!!! Where do you come up with these thoughts man?! Brilliant.Griffith said:Maybe he originally offered Arnold the part of the sex offender; it all could have gone so differently!
Yeah, it looked and frankly still looks pretty bad, like a generically bad superfero flick from 15 years ago. As for fans, Venom is kind of controversial and there's lots of people that feel he's trash, so I don't think too many will be passionate about this either way, especially divorced from Spider-Man and the original symbiote suit story. It's a weird project, like they're only doing this because it's the biggest Spider-Man adjacent character they own (besides, uh... SPIDER-MAN!), but not big enough anybody will make much of a stink if/when they fuck it up like Spider-Man. I don't understand what Sony's doing with the property or really this whole crossover Spider-Man deal. It seems to make sense for nobody but fans that want to see Spidey in the MCU, so I'm not complaining but it's still strange. Does Sony get the standalone movie profits and Marvel gets the prestige and boost of having Spidey in their team-up universe? It either doesn't seem worth the effort for Marvel or the cost for Sony no matter how you slice it because you're slicing the profits up in any case. It'd be interesting to see an exact breakdown of who pays what, does what, and gets what out of it (Ok, Sony handles all the money in or out, Marvel the creativity and branding benefits). I guess Sony gets to avoid too much work and looking like WB/DC while hitching their wagon to the successful Marvel machine. It only makes sense if they were basically ready to give up on it anyway, which I guess they were.IncantatioN said:Speaking of Venom, the first teaser or trailer looked like garbage. Even as a massive fan of Tom, I'd have to force myself to step into the theater or pay for it. The last trailer that got shoved in my face at the movies (I try to avoid em as much as I can but movie previews these days ... suck, sigh) looked decent and you get to see the same bad CGI but more Venom, so there's a bit of hope. I also don't know anything of the comics, so if the story doesn't deliver in that regard, I won't know/ it won't bother me as much as die hard fans.
Green should try to fill the void of roles calling for a charismatic Hardy, the version from Inception everyone thought would be the next James Bond, and not some weirdo. What is Hardy doing in Venom? I think the Venom special effects seem more real than Hardy's Eddie Brock effects, like, even when he just tells the lady he has a parasite, WHAT IS HE DOING!? He actually sounds more normal as Venom, hmmm... now I'm coming back around on it. Damn you, Hardy! =)IncantatioN said:Funnily enough, his doppelganger Logan Marshall-Green's new movie sees the actor playing the same role (!!!) in the sense, they're both infused with something they have to battle with physically and mentally.
Upgrade is a SOLID sci fi action flick, so much fun man - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1hTLGlgZ4Z8
I take two tangentially related things, twist them together inIncantatioN said:Hahaha!!! Where do you come up with these thoughts man?! Brilliant.
It really doesn't look like anything special that would otherwise pull people in, just another mediocre Predator movie, and the creepy Shane Black "sex offender buddy" story (which Munn seems more interested in publicizing than the movie! ) puts a stake in its already tepidly beating heart. It may very well be the best one since the original (it's reviews not so coincidentally went in the tank this week), but however it could accomplish that feat doesn't come across in the trailers where it might as well be AvP: Requiem 2.IncantatioN said:I feel like Arnold coming back would surely add to my personal excitement to watch it. Nobody around me is talking about it or wants to see it. Time permitting, I just might by myself this weekend ...
So weird! This is exactly what I said when I was trying to make a B-movie in today's market. In reality, my producer spit in my face after I relayed Arnold's asking price to be involved in my terrible movie.Griffith said:UPDATE: Looks like we're switching gears to some better bad press, "Hey, did you hear Arnold turned down a part in the movie!?"
But... you wrote the movie, Shane, so if you knew that why not offer him a bigger part, like as an expert at the Predator lab or something? He'd have a lot in common with the Holbrook character and could play sage to the new group hunting the Predator, as has become common in these projects (it's called a formula, like bringing in the bigger, badder Predator =). Did you really need more Sterling K. Brown punchlines or *gulp* Olivia Munn? Maybe he originally offered Arnold the part of the sex offender; it all could have gone so differently!
I liked this take... until it was confirmed Venom will be PG-13! This pushes it closer to "plain bad" territory without some ridiculous and/or gory kills, IMO. The reasoning may be worse. Rather than just saying it's "to recoup more opening weekend money before it bombs," it's supposedly so they can potentially crossover with Spider-Man down the line, which, while I appreciate the long game, do you really think Marvel is going to want anything to do with this mess? I mean, Feige reportedly already hates the Marvel TV and Netflix stuff, do you really think he's going to want to legitimize this third party minor league shit? Ironically, Deadpool might be the most likely to be continued by Marvel because of how well done and received it's been, as it's virtually already an R rated MCU franchise, and I think they may have even expressed interest in doing something like that, an R rated superhero movie, themselves.NCHaskew said:I gotta say, Venom is fulfilling the role that's had a void for some time: a big budget film that's so bad, it's good. Nowadays, you either have a movie that goes bugnuts like that, but has no budget, or a big budget movie that's just bland. Venom is clearly meant to be a blockbuster, but is so full of cheesy, over the top acting, that it's just gonna be a fun trip. I hope to see it opening night.
Ouch, on the bright side it made more than that overseas and may break even on paper (with a relatively paltry $88 mil budget), but with the marketing costs and all those screens they clearly had bigger ideas. Hopefully this means we won't be having to endure any more half-assed Predator movies pretending this is some blockbuster tentpole franchise when it was actually a singularly good 80's action movie (with the biggest action star and arguably the best action director of the era on board!).https://www.boxofficemojo.com/news/?id=4438&p=.htm said:With an estimated $24 million, 20th Century Fox's The Predator took the weekend's #1 spot, but the film has little to celebrate. Debuting in 4,037 theaters, the film's opening is the worst for a live-action film opening in over 4,000 locations, unseating The Mummy, which previously held the distinction after its $31.6 million opening in 4,035 theaters last summer. The opening currently falls short of even 2010's Predators which opened with $24.76 million in just 2,669 locations. That film went on to gross just over $52 million.
Yeah... Let's hope they stop sullying that name now.Griffith said:Hopefully this means we won't be having to endure any more half-assed Predator movies pretending this is some blockbuster tentpole franchise when it was actually a singularly good 80's action movie (with the biggest action star and arguably the best action director of the era on board!).
Sigh.... I'm going to have to take my kid to see this garbage. He already knows it exists, and he cannot wait.A double-post of a movie if there ever was one:
Sonic the Hedgehog
Those box office records may be short-lived, Endgame, as the era of comic book movie dominance comes to a close, the age of video game films is ascendant!
I want everyone even mildly unappreciative of the MCU machine to watch this trailer. Really take a look, breath it in, because THIS was MY childhood comic/game/cartoon movie adaptation experience (it even has Jim Carrey =). I'm home again, and while I was gone Sonic has pulled out the trash from under the sink and shit all over the place, as it should be.
There's more to complain about than this, but the way they had the background music clip in and out with every Jim Carrey line in the sort of late middle of the trailer really annoyed me, and I don't know why they did that. As far as the movie goes, I feel like Jim Carrey as Robotnik is kind of a good choice, but it doesn't look like they're gonna go for the full ridiculous cartoon thing of like the Wachowskis' Speed Racer (sue me, I loved it) and instead for just making a grating cartoon character deliver MCU lines (lmao fitbit!).